RIPE records for .IT domain names

[Piero Serini]

Please find English version at the bottom of this message.

Il 23/01/2001 Daniele Vannozzi spiegava che "dal DB di RIPE
verranno cancellati nelle prossime settimane tutti i domini registrati
nel TLD .it".

A tutt'oggi questo non è ancora successo.

IT-NIC effettivamente non manda più update per i domini sotto il TLD .IT,
ma i vecchi dati non sono stati rimossi. La cattiva notizia è che i vecchi
record
presso RIPE sono ancora mantenuti da IT-NIC e pertanto non possono essere
cambiati.

Queries effettuate sul database di RIPE trovano ancora regolarmente entries
per i domini .IT, e non con un sistema distribuito, ma contenenti vecchi
dati.
Questo causa lo spargersi di informazioni vecchie e spesso errate riguardo
a domini registrati e/o modificati fino a dicembre 2000.

Un esempio:

$ whois -h whois.ripe.net esi.it
domain:      esi.it
descr:       ESI s.r.l.
admin-c:     PS155
tech-c:      ESI-ORG
tech-c:      MC669
tech-c:      PS155
zone-c:      ESI-ORG
zone-c:      MC669
zone-c:      PS155
nserver:     ns1.esiway.net
nserver:     ns2.esiway.net
nserver:     dns2.nic.it
dom-net:     193.194.16.0 193.194.17.0 193.194.18.0 193.194.19.0
dom-net:     193.194.20.0
remarks:     ESI s.r.l. is a Consulting company in the field of Information
remarks:     and Communiccation Technology, based in Milano, Italy.
remarks:     Main areas of interest are InterNetworking (LAN and WAN),
remarks:     Internet and Intranet setup, managing and trouble-shooting,
remarks:     System Management and Education.
remarks:     Fully-managed
remarks:     created:     19960808
mnt-by:      IT-NIC
changed:     hostmaster a esiway.net 19981104
changed:     hostmaster a esi.it 20000120
changed:     hostmaster a nic.it 20000121
source:      RIPE

Ma:

$ whois -h whois.nic.it esi.it
domain:      esi.it
x400-domain: c=it; admd=0; prmd=esi;
org:         ESI srl
descr:       ESI srl is a Consulting company in the field of Information
descr:       and Communication Technology, based in Milano, Italy.
descr:       Main areas of interest are InterNetworking (LAN and WAN),
descr:       Internet and Intranet setup, managing and trouble-shooting,
descr:       System Management and Education.
admin-c:     PS155
tech-c:      ESI-ORG
tech-c:      MC669
tech-c:      PS155
tech-c:      GC1003
postmaster:  MC669
postmaster:  PS155
postmaster:  GC1003
zone-c:      ESI-ORG
zone-c:      MC669
zone-c:      PS155
zone-c:      GC1003
nserver:     193.194.16.129  ns1.esiway.net
nserver:     193.194.16.130  ns2.esiway.net
nserver:     212.239.14.241  ns3.esiway.net
nserver:     193.205.245.8  dns2.nic.it
dom-net:     193.194.16.0 193.194.17.0 193.194.18.0 193.194.19.0
dom-net:     193.194.20.0
remarks:     Fully-managed
mnt-by:      ESI-MNT
created:     19960808
changed:     hostmaster a esi.it 20010308
source:      IT-NIC

Ora, non so chi debba provvedere, ma forse la via più veloce è che IT-NIC
chieda a RIPE di cancellare questi record.

Saluti

Piero Serini

On Jan the 23rd,  2001 Daniele Vannozzi explained that "in the next weeks
all
domain names registered under the TLD .IT will be removed from  RIPE
database" (translation is mine, not Daniele's :)

To date, this dind't happen.

Actually, IT-NIC doesn't send any update for domain names under the TLD .IT
any more, but old data hasn't been removed from it. The bas news is that old
records in the RIPE db are still mnt-by:  IT-NIC, and thus cannot be
changed.

Queries from the RIPE db still routinely find entries for .IT domains, and
not
via the distributed system, but carrying old data. This causes spreading of
out-
of-date, often wrong informations, regarding domain names registered and/or
modified up to december 2000.

An example:

$ whois -h whois.ripe.net esi.it
domain:      esi.it
descr:       ESI s.r.l.
admin-c:     PS155
tech-c:      ESI-ORG
tech-c:      MC669
tech-c:      PS155
zone-c:      ESI-ORG
zone-c:      MC669
zone-c:      PS155
nserver:     ns1.esiway.net
nserver:     ns2.esiway.net
nserver:     dns2.nic.it
dom-net:     193.194.16.0 193.194.17.0 193.194.18.0 193.194.19.0
dom-net:     193.194.20.0
remarks:     ESI s.r.l. is a Consulting company in the field of Information
remarks:     and Communiccation Technology, based in Milano, Italy.
remarks:     Main areas of interest are InterNetworking (LAN and WAN),
remarks:     Internet and Intranet setup, managing and trouble-shooting,
remarks:     System Management and Education.
remarks:     Fully-managed
remarks:     created:     19960808
mnt-by:      IT-NIC
changed:     hostmaster a esiway.net 19981104
changed:     hostmaster a esi.it 20000120
changed:     hostmaster a nic.it 20000121
source:      RIPE

But:

$ whois -h whois.nic.it esi.it
domain:      esi.it
x400-domain: c=it; admd=0; prmd=esi;
org:         ESI srl
descr:       ESI srl is a Consulting company in the field of Information
descr:       and Communication Technology, based in Milano, Italy.
descr:       Main areas of interest are InterNetworking (LAN and WAN),
descr:       Internet and Intranet setup, managing and trouble-shooting,
descr:       System Management and Education.
admin-c:     PS155
tech-c:      ESI-ORG
tech-c:      MC669
tech-c:      PS155
tech-c:      GC1003
postmaster:  MC669
postmaster:  PS155
postmaster:  GC1003
zone-c:      ESI-ORG
zone-c:      MC669
zone-c:      PS155
zone-c:      GC1003
nserver:     193.194.16.129  ns1.esiway.net
nserver:     193.194.16.130  ns2.esiway.net
nserver:     212.239.14.241  ns3.esiway.net
nserver:     193.205.245.8  dns2.nic.it
dom-net:     193.194.16.0 193.194.17.0 193.194.18.0 193.194.19.0
dom-net:     193.194.20.0
remarks:     Fully-managed
mnt-by:      ESI-MNT
created:     19960808
changed:     hostmaster a esi.it 20010308
source:      IT-NIC

Now, I don't know who's in charge of such a change, but maybe the fastest
way is that IT-NIC asks RIPE to remove such records.

Regards,

Piero Serini